I wonder how many innocents get killed when you bomb a city . . . wouldn't that precept make nearly ALL war wrong, Grimm? . . .

Situation Ethics is what passes for morality in the mind of Progressives.
If something is moral, it is ALWAYS moral. It is notr moral only when we want it to be and then when we do not want it to be we can say well, we can't apply it here.

An example of this is this:

It is always immoral to take an innocent human life.

Once you vary from that moral precept, then you engage in "situation ethics"

dumb bitch DOES deserve to be punished. This is a LOT different than an eighteen year old girl with a fourteen year old girl.

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If the bottle is picked up, and the bottle is shaken even just a little - in about 30 seconds or less it builds up enough gas which then explodes with enough force to remove some your extremities. The liquid that comes out is boiling hot as well.

Don't pick up any plastic bottles that may be lying in your yards or in the
gutter, etc.

Pay attention to this. A plastic bottle with a cap. A little Drano. A little water. A small piece of tin foil. Disturb it by moving it and BOOM!! No fingers left and other serious effects to your face, eyes, etc.

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the expression "statutory rape" and found all kinds of different things being claimed. It can even vary from state to state. But according to "freedictionary.com" it is "Sexual intercourse by an adult with a person below a statutorily designated age."

The criminal offense of statutory rape is committed when an adult sexually penetrates a person who, under the law, is incapable of consenting to sex.

There's that nasty old tiresome word again. Penetration.

I would guess most of the other stuff would be called "molestation."

Might still be looked upon as just as bad - or it might not. I'm not sure.

Where did you hear that phrase "situation ethics?" I bet some right wing extremist type said it and you adapted it into your own vocabulary without really thinking about it that much. Personally, I think it's a very good phrase about what SHOULD be done when making decisions about things. You should take into consideration all the varying circumstances in a situation before passing judgment.

"Situation ethics." You say that with disdain and as if it's a totally wrong thing.

You have to be appropriate to the structure of the immediate situation. You can't apply a one size fits all rule to life and living.

Situation ethics are valid.

Lucky up to a point - but then again - she better not get pregnant.

That might paint it a different color methinks.

Everything is very complicated when you really come down to it.

Oh cut it out. A female teacher of twenty two or five who has sex with a student of fourteen is a DIFFERENT STORY than a fourteen year old girl having a relationship with an eighteen year old GIRL.

Besides the bigger difference in age - a school teacher has a position that is also taken into consideration. A school teacher is an authority figure and that's a little different when they USE their position to manipulate a student into having sex.

You don't seem to have the ability to see shades of gray when it comes to some things. It's all black and white to Tony.

Any 14-year-old boy who has sex with a hot 18-year-old girl is a LUCKY SON OF A BITCH . . . end of story . . .

So now - you think a gal of eighteen who has sex with a boy of fifteen should go to prison? PRISON? Where they put murderers and violent criminals?

Gee fucking whiz.

You get on some really outrageous trips sometimes. Extreme. Where's the damn compassion?

Even God recognizes that there is a difference between mortal sins and venial sins. Let's try to keep that in mind please.

You're just getting too legalistic. Gee whiz.

A girl of eighteen who has a consensual relationship with a girl of fourteen is not in my opinion a rapist or a child molester. Same with a young man. Perhaps it's because of the generation I come from but it was really not unusual for there to be a few years between the men and their girlfriends. Now all of a sudden it is?

I don't think I really agree with some of the hysteria involved regarding sex nowadays.

Let's see. Girls as young as fourteen can get the morning after pill without anybody's consent but their own. Young kids can purchase trojans but not cigarettes. Young men and women of seventeen can go to war and carry guns and kill people - but they can't drink alcohol. They CAN drive a car or have an abortion - but no beers.

Now all of a sudden any sexual contact is statutory rape? I thought rape involved being forced to have sex and statutory rape was when a really young girl is tempted into sex by an older man. Not forced but misled is the implication. But it still involved penetration I thought.

A slightly older gal diddling a slightly younger girl's clit is not statutory rape. I don't think so.

I need to look into this.

Very strange and confusing world we live in.

Yes I would!!! And, I have said so forever...even when those female teachers molested their students.
See, I am and have been consistent, I don't play that situation ethics garbage. When something is wrong, it is wrong.

I get bent out of shape when people demand to be treated equally and then when you do they still cry discrimination.

It ain't because she's gay . . . it's because she's female . . . well I wouldn't be wanting her to go to prison either if she'd lain with a 14-year-old boy instead . . . would you? . . .

for you:

The President today said that an American who goes overseas and wages war on the US can be targeted and killed without a trial or an indictment or anything else but the President's say so.

But, and here is the stupidity of it all, a foreigner who has waged war on the US should be given all the rights of an American citizen and charged in civil court....WTF???

last time I looked, 18 was grown, able to sign contracts and be tried as an adult...there is no difference between an adult of 18 or one of 81, they are equally culpable for a crime.

And BTW NAMBLA claims that adults should have sex with children you only difference is what the age of an adult is. An 18 year old who commits murder or any crime does not get tried as a Juvenile but as an adult....period.

but the constable involved sure has some explaining to do in my opinion. Instead of going after the father and saving the boys - he calls police? But wait - I thought he WAS a cop too?

If I was the mother? I would hold him partly responsible for the death of those two poor little boys.

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On the serious side Tony. In over eleven years, I KNOW I have NEVER said anything that would indicate that I support Nambla.

Really.

tsk.

Oooooh I seeeeeee. These priests that molested young men - they were twenty one and the alter boys they raped were eighteen?

I don't think so. I would bet a million dollars that most of the alter boys were twelve to fourteen tops and the priests were at least twenty five and usually more.

NAMBLA?

I do NOT support grown men having sex with LITTLE BOYS.

That is NOT what we are talking about.

You don't approve of gay relationships no matter WHAT the age.

Why don't you admit it? It's not like everybody doesn't already know.

No Tony - you're fooling yourself if you think it's about being fair and all that.

Personally? I don't think there's anything wrong with an eighteen year old boy dating a fourteen year old girl. As long as it's consensual and the parents give their permission - no problem.

Or if it's a girl and a girl or a boy and a boy - whatever.

Way too much Annie, most of those priests were fresh out of the Seminary and were twenty something when they started molesting.

Cheez Annie, either something is wrong or not what about what NAMBLA preaches? Seems to be the same thing you are now supporting.

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Ingredients:

15 cicadas

1 cup flour

1 cup brown sugar

1/2 tsp cinnamon

1/2 cup butter

1 egg

1/2 tsp vanilla

1/4 tsp baking soda

1/2 tsp salt

2 1/2 cups Kroger Granola Cereal with Raisins

Directions:

First freeze cicadas and break off legs and wings etc. Next boil for 5 min. then bake at 550 F for 10min. Take cicadas out and cut up very finely. Preheat oven to 350 F. In a large bowl stir together flour, brown sugar, salt, cinnamon, and baking soda. Stir in remaining ingredients except cereal; until smooth. Stir in half of the cereal. Form dough into 1 inch balls and roll in remaining cereal. Place 2 inches apart on ungreased cookie sheet. Bake for 12-14 minutes, or until golden brown.

I get bent out of shape when people demand to be treated equally and then when you do they still cry discrimination.

Tell me, what is the difference??? Why should that 18 year old not be charged and an 18 year old boy that did the same thing is??

For that matter if both were boys they 18 year old still should be charged.

Oh Tony. A sixteen or even seventeen year old boy being molested by some pot bellied, balding and middle aged priest with dental plaque is not comparable to an eighteen year old girl having a consensual relationship with a fourteen year old girl.

Not the same. Not the same thing at all.

You just get bent out of shape when gay sex is involved.

Many of those "boys" that were molested by Priests were older than 14 and that my dear is why we have a law that draws a line that those over 18 should not cross.

I stand corrected, it is Statutory Rape and it don't matter if there was any penetration or not, if it was an 18 year old boy and a 14 year old girl, he will be charged with Statutory Rape even if he did not have intercourse and just grabbed her ass.

The point is, that is the law and nobody, and I mean nobody ever challenged it on the grounds of discrimination because it does not discriminate. You cannot claim that you want equal rights and then want "special rights" that is a bunch of bull.

When my daughter was 14, if I found some 18 year old sniffing around her he would not have had to worry about being charged, he would have to worry about keeping his dick.

Besides physical pain - there are two other pains that can hurt enough to kill.

One is having your heart broken by someone you love. Two is when death comes and takes someone you love (and that includes animal companions).

May God have mercy on those who mourn.

We just had a downpour of rain that was incredible. There was a waterfall coming off my roof with such a force behind it that it was literally leaking through the closed windows. I'm worried that the back wall of our building is going to absorb water and swell up and get mold and start to crumble and you name it but it's not going to be good - not good at all.

Oh really? Rape is rape you say? Hmmmm. Kinda hard to rape someone if you don't put anything IN there. You know what I'm saying?

Technically - seems to me that two women diddling clits or having oral sex does not fall into the category of rape.

No penetration? No rape.

So you see - it actually does matter as to the sex.

Gee - that's really "John Wayne" of ya darlin.' The "law's the law" is all that matters (and who cares if it's fair or unreasonable eh)?

Anyway, seems to me that there's some things in this world that deserve attention way more than this.

Surely it's not just that it's a woman having sex with another woman that has you irritated.

I guess the rule is if there's a four-year difference and one is over eighteen, the eighteen-year-old has committed statutory . . . I don't think that ought to be called molestation . . . it's not nearly as perverse as a grown man or woman doing such . . . if she were ONE YEAR younger or the girl one year older there would be no crime at all . . .

The law calls it rape....an 18 yr. old is considered an adult. Don't matter what sex they are thems the rules and everyone needs to keep em.

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